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Washington — Dr. Anthony Fauci is testifying on Monday before a Republican-led House panel investigating the origins of COVID-19 and the government’s pandemic response, in a widely anticipated hearing where the intense partisan divide over the pandemic is likely to be once again on display.
The hearing marks Fauci’s first public appearance on Capitol Hill since leaving government in 2022, where he served as the chief medical advisor to President Biden and as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Fauci, who was revered by the left and denigrated by the right during the pandemic, is being grilled by Republicans on the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic committee.
Last week, the committee released transcripts from a closed-door interview conducted with Fauci in January that it said has been a “critical component” to the committee’s investigations into the origins of the virus, government policies during the pandemic and improvements to the U.S. public health system. The interview lasted 14 hours over the course of two days
At the time of the interview, the panel’s chairman, Rep. Brad Wenstrup of Ohio, told CBS News that the interview and the exchanges were cordial and professional.
But GOP committee staff concluded in a memo of key takeaways that the lab leak theory about where the virus originated is “not a conspiracy theory,” pointing to comments from Fauci during the interview that it “could be a lab leak or it could be a natural occurrence,” though he noted that he believes the evidence he’s seen suggests to him that it’s more likely a natural occurrence.
The memo also claimed that certain pandemic policies lacked supporting scientific evidence, like the guidance to maintain a six-foot distance from others, vaccine mandates and masks for children.
The hearing comes days after committee Republicans demanded Fauci turn over some personal emails and questioned whether he had been communicating about official government work on his private accounts.
A senior adviser to Fauci, Dr. David Morens, faced tough questioning last week from the panel over emails suggesting that he may have been circumventing federal Freedom of Information Act rules by using a “secret back channel” with Fauci.
The Fauci hearing
Wenstrup thanked Fauci at the outset of Monday’s hearing for his “willing cooperation,” citing his voluntary appearance at the January interview and at Monday’s hearing.
“Beginning early in 2020, you became the figurehead of public health,” Wenstrup said in his opening remarks. “Americans from coast to coast and beyond listened to your words, and this is where I think we could have done better … We should have been more precise, we should have used words and phrases that are accurate and not misleading. And we should have been honest, especially about what we didn’t know.”
The hearing quickly became more serious, as the committee chair questioned alleged misconduct that occurred under Fauci’s leadership, claiming he allowed his office to be “unaccountable to the American people.”
“We have seen officials from your office, in their own writing, discussing breaking federal law, deleting official records, and sharing private government information with grant recipients. The office you directed and those serving under your leadership chose to flout the law and bragged about it,” Wenstrup said.
Fauci distanced himself from the investigation into Morens, saying they worked in different buildings on the National Institutes of Health’s campus. Morens worked with him only on helping to write some scientific papers, Fauci said, and was not an adviser to him on “institute policy or other substantive issues.”
“Let me state for the record, to the best of my knowledge, I have never conducted official business using my personal email,” Fauci told the committee.
Fauci said many of Morens’ actions were wrong and ran afoul of agency policy. He also directly contradicted Morens’ claim, quoted from an email to the EcoHealth Alliance, that Fauci was trying to protect the group. EcoHealth Alliance and its NIH funding has faced scrutiny since early during the pandemic over its ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
“I don’t know where he got that, but that’s not true,” said Fauci.
Fauci also refuted the accusation that he influenced scientists who were working to determine whether the virus had originated in a lab by bribing them with grant money, saying the accusation “is absolutely false and simply preposterous.” He also pushed back on the claim that he tried to cover up that the virus originated in the lab, saying he has “always kept an open mind to the different possibilities.”
California Rep. Raul Ruiz, the panel’s top-ranking Democrat, blasted the subcommittee’s Republican leadership for doing little to uncover new information on the origins of the virus or improve preparedness for future pandemics.
“After 15 months, the select subcommittee still does not possess a shred of evidence to substantiate these extreme allegations that Republicans have levied against Dr. Fauci for nearly four years,” Ruiz said in his opening remarks.
Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, also came to Fauci’s defense, saying House Republicans were using the subcommittee as a platform for “disinformation” about Fauci.
“House Republicans now find themselves in the familiar position where their own investigation debunks their runaway political rhetoric,” Raskin said. “The investigation of Dr. Fauci shows he is an honorable public servant who has devoted his entire career to the public health and the public interest — and he is not a comic book super villain.”
Fauci’s testimony, along with the closed-door interview, are expected to be included among the subcommittee’s final report on its investigation, which will come late this year.
Kaia Hubbard is a politics reporter for CBS News Digital, based in Washington, D.C.
